The only thing I know about the Ultramatic LV is the name because it's on the slide. Oh, and it's Ugly.
I suspect the Ultramatic is a 9mm handgun, because it's styling appears to be from the wondernine era. To me, it looks like a pistol Mr. Spock would get if he took a IMI Baby Eagle and a 1911 and vulcanized them into a Browning Buckmark.
Beam me up Scotty.
I'm trying to have breakfast here!!!!
ReplyDeleteI can't say what it is, but I have an almost identical .17 cal BB gun.
ReplyDeleteThe fake slide and the plunger in the back makes it look suspiciously like either a spring powered air gun or a cheap .22 pistol.
I seriously doubt it's a 9mm.
There are some guns you look at and wonder if the designer had ever held a handgun, or even liked them very much.
ReplyDeleteAnon..... You may be right!
ReplyDeleteDamn. I'll have to try again I guess........
So the story behind the 9mm Ultramatic is that it was an Austrian import that tried to compete with the 1911 and such back in the late 90s/early 00s.
ReplyDeleteSome folks actually did compete with them, but, not many made it to the finish line, let alone the trophy bench.
G&A did a review years ago and gave it a really warm fuzzy article. A year later, folks were writing into G&A mag telling them to stop writing good reviews for crappy guns.
It was after this disaster that Gary James and crew revamped how they did hardware reviews.
The gun was only offered with 10rd mags, even to LEOs who were foolish enough to put money down.
Although they were very reliable with factory ammo, they were never rated for +P or +P+ and their crazy barrel design made this apparent after a couple thousand rounds.
compare this to a SA 1911A1 chambered in 9mm, which should last 10K rounds, you see my point.
It looked to have a bolt rather than a slide, so I was going to guess a smaller caliber blowback rather than a wondernine.
ReplyDeleteAccording to http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=122776521 I was half-right, it is a blowback 9mm. The mags in the auction appear to be AWB neutered 10 rounders.
Nope. I's an actual gun.
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While I'd never buy one, I kind of like it. Clean lines. Kind of like a stealth handgun.
ReplyDeleteAh man!
ReplyDeleteThat would look hot in a Galco Miami Vice shoulder holster worn under a white sportcoat, a gold chain around my neck, and not to mention my "porn-star" mustache. -Wicked Grin-
Wolf Ultramatic.
ReplyDelete9mm straight blowback apparently, which seems to me to be an odd system for a cartridge as big as 9mm NATO. Must have a stout recoil spring.
While the styling does NOT appeal to me, I would not be willing to go as far as ugly. It should be illustrated with a Starfleet communicator OR a THRUSH banner and an "open Channel D" ballpoint pen.
Xavier- since Grant Cunningham is a well know gun design and aesthetics philosopher, you ought to solicit his comments. I think they might be very interesting.
Good Sunday to you all.
Regards
GKT
I'd file this under (marginally) better than nothing.
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Ahhh.. . . But did it ever work, and IF so, how well (or not)?
ReplyDeleteHappy Memorial Day.
B Woodman
High Point uses straight blowback in 9mm, .40 and .45. If they escape inclusion in Ugly Gun Sunday, it is only for being too common.
ReplyDeleteFrom the 1997 Gun Digest, Page 114:
ReplyDeleteAn Austrian firm has introduced a pistol that at first glance looks a bit like a 1911, but really isn't anything like it at all. The Ultramatic LV pistol has a fixed barrel and "fixed slide". What moves is an internal bolt, retarded after firing by two locking studs, in a fashion similar to that of the MG-42, the German machine-gun of WWII. Ultramatic calls this a "torus segment locking system".
This is a big pistol, about 10 inches long and 6 inches high with a 6 inch barrel. It has conventional double action and a staggered-column magazine. A manual safety combined with a decocker conforms to IPSC rules.
The pistol is offered as a 9mm now, but others in 40, 45, 10mm, and 50 AE are in the works. Pistols have reportedly been in production since late 1995. The company plans to incorporate in the United States and open an office in Atlanta, Georgia.The picture in the story almost exactly matches the one in your post. Curiously, it appears that elements of this pistol design resurfaced as the prototype for the Hogue Avenger. Never heard of that? Me neither until I looked around. It is apparently some sort of 1911 top end:
http://www.getgrip.com/main/whatsnew/avenger.html
It looks a little better here.
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Some really ugly guns at the link
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Chris