Xavier Thoughts: Despicable

Monday, October 08, 2007

Despicable

Hat tip to phlegmfatale

Labels: Rants

15 Comments:

Anonymous said...: Every American should be proud of what that man just did to defend the flag that represents this great nation. That man is absolutely what it means to be an American and we all could take a page out of his book. Those spineless cowards had nothing to say. If mexico is so great then what the hell are they doing here taking advantage of our country.; 10:10 PM
Unknown said...: I'd like to buy that man a beer and shake his hand. I'm far from the most patriotic guy in the world, but some things are going too far. One of my best friends in the world is being shipped overseas in December to do one of the most dangerous jobs there is - transport. Flying any nation's flag above our own, for ANY REASON is disgusting beyond belief and insulting, and should be dealt with in such a way that the offender(s) can have no doubt what they've done to spit in the eye of the American people.; 11:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Despicable?

To quote Inigo Montoya from the Princess Bride.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."; 1:45 AM
phlegmfatale said...: I love a man with the balls to stand there, state his name and go on record as not tolerating that kind of insult to our flag and to the folks who have made our very existence as a nation possible. Never mind the primed-for-tv politicians and talking heads - the spirit of this man and men and women like him are the heroes of our nation and what make it great.; 9:52 AM
Anonymous said...: but didn't he desecrate our flag? It's supposed to be held, folded, etc. a certain way. I would have cut down that other flag and thrown it away for the garbage that it is.; 12:16 PM
Anonymous said...: An example of the "reConquista" movement as espoused by organizations such as "la Raza" - and another reminder of how our government is failing to do its duty, PROTECTING OUR BORDERS!!; 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Flying another flag over an American Flag is not illegal! Look it up! You may not like it but it is not. More importantly I feel that by serving, that man was protecting our First Amendment rights. To me protection of those rights is far more important than any symbolism. What that man is doing is far more damaging to this country and what it stands for than some dumb ass restaurant owner looking for trouble. Granted, he is asking for it but America does not stand for the rights of rednecks only.; 3:09 PM
Water said...: "anonymous" os as like to call "Spineless" IS WRONG!

The flag of the United States shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

Sub. Sec. 3c states:

"No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy."

...and Sub. sec. 8 states:

"Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.

No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof; Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations."; 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Flag Code; 4:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Hanging any other flag above the flag of the United States is against the United States Flag Code, which is also a U.S. federal law. Look it up on Wikipedia, which also has a link to the actual United States Flag Code (title 4 of the United States Code: 4 U.S.C.). In short, flying another flag over an American Flag IS illegal.

The following can also be found from Wikipedia...

The Flag Protection Act, which was passed in 1989, was declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1990. The act remains in the U.S. Code, but is unlikely to be enforced unless an amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified. This means that while it is against the law to commit the acts prescribed in Title 18 Part I Chapter 33, it would go against the First Amendment to penalize someone for doing so.; 4:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm. Seems to me that the U.S. flag was that Mexican man's property. I wonder if the very bearded man would have killed him if he protected his property. Does someone who desecrates the American flag deserve to die? Can you use violence to protect an idea?; 9:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous: Give it up, you've been wrong three times.

You're out! Next batter!; 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm. Seems to me that the U.S. flag was that Mexican man's property. I wonder if the very bearded man would have killed him if he protected his property.
Use of lethal force to protect property is not legal in any jurisdiction I am aware of, certainly not in Nevada.

Does someone who desecrates the American flag deserve to die?
Yes.

Can you use violence to protect an idea?
Have you absolutely no concept of history?; 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...: That was a different Anonymous. I actually meant to go by Sans Authoritas on the last one. I knew it was illegal, but my question still stands. Should someone be slain for desecrating the flag and what it stands for? Should someone die for an idea?; 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Use of lethal force to protect property is not legal in any jurisdiction I am aware of, certainly not in Nevada.

I wasn't speaking about the Mexican man using lethal force. Just if the Mexican used minimal force, I wouldn't doubt that the very bearded man would have stabbed or slashed him like an animal.

Sans Authoritas: Does someone who desecrates the American flag deserve to die?

Michael: Yes.

Wow. So an act that does not violate the life, liberty or property of anyone else merits the death penalty. Interesting. Hitler thought the same thing about being a Jew.

Sans Authoritas: Can you use violence to protect an idea?

Michael: Have you absolutely no concept of history?

Well, yes. I also have a pretty decent concept of reality, too. In reality, you cannot use physical violence to protect an idea. An idea can never suffer harm itself. It can merely be accepted or rejected. It's why you can't use violence to spread Christianity: it's a contradiction in terms. You cannot force anyone to believe anything. That is because belief, by definition, is the self-willed acceptance of the truth as perceived. And no one can force another person to will anything.

No one has ever defended an idea with violence. They have only defended realities. You cannot defend an intangible "liberty." You can only defend your physical ability to do certain things.; 4:43 PM