Similarities
"You like to fire assault weapons? I have a place for you. It's not in the homes and streets of America. It's called the Army, and you can join any time!"Wesley Clark
"There is no right to have access to the weapons of war in the streets of America. For those who want to wield those weapons, we have a place for them. It is the US military. And we welcome them."
John Kerry
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA. Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."
Heinrich Himmler
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posted by Xavier at 10:10 PM
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History shows that all repressive governments seek first of all to have a monopoly on violence. The more secure they feel the less secure we are. Great use of quotes Xavier.
Here is a quote by another top Nazi that should give all Americans pause.
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp
The more things change ...?
Travlin, you're not being a patriot. Times have changed: human nature itself has evolved! No longer to people in government seek power for power's sake. They're only in it for your safety and security now.
Being a patriot doesn't mean loving your neighbors and your homeland. It means supporting the policies of the government. No matter what. You can either support Bush or the terrorists. If you don't support Bush, it means you stomp on kittens, like terrorists do. You aren't an unpatriotic, terrorist-hugging kitten-stomper, are you?
Very well put, sir. Very well indeed.
What would be great is if Kerry himself read it that way.
Sod the lot of 'em. God forbid should it come to pass that the war should reach their home shores, all of them would likely sing a different tune.
Especially Kerry.
tweaker
One wonders if Herr Himmler had second thoughts about that when the Red Army was bearing down on Berlin and they had to mobilize the Volkssturm and Hitler Youth and the Werewolf resistance...?
In a different vein, the Founding Fathers would be utterly appalled by our multi-trillion dollar military-industrial complex and appalled at how far away from the 2nd Amendment (and the rest of the Bill of Rights) we've drifted since the Republic's founding.
They always felt large standing armies were a threat to liberty. (Eisenhower agreed and tried to warn us in his farewell address)
Current events and recent history are proving the Founders correct, I fear.
If you want to shoot often and and when you feel like it, you won't be happy in the military. Most officers regard troops with guns and ammunition as an opportunity for their career to take a hit. The government's weapons stay locked up most of the time, and personal weapons aren't viewed positively by most of the higher ups.
"All things come from the barrel of a gun; Food, Health, Education... -But the party shall control the gun, not the gun the Party..."
Mao
70 million state murders (plus or minus 20M)
Invasions and continuing annexation and oppression of Tibet, East Turkestan and Assam.
Wars in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.
Insurgencies in Malaya.
Continuing Terrorist campaigns in Nepal.
The "Shining path" in Peru
Of course, to read anything by his supporters, we find Mao the Humanitarian, Mao the philosopher, Mao the Flower arranger....
Count me among the "kitten stompers" rather than among these paragons of human virtue and peace
To set aside the clueless thread-jacking, let's revisit the commonality between Clark, Kerry and Himmler:
Guns in the hands of "little people": = bad
Guns in the hands of the state = good
I agree with the anonymous poster. Our freedom is threatened more by armies and police who run unchecked than by law-abiding citizens who want effective weaponry to defend their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Anyway, my opinion is that Kerry and Clark, having failed this simple Bill of Rights quiz (but who can blame them? The 2nd Amendment is for duck hunting, sayeth Bill Clinton) are playing to the crowd, who desperately need to believe -- against all evidence -- that Straight White Men with Guns are the root of evil, and therefore must be pruned back to enable the success of the nanny state.
In a way, they're right.
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