I have read of them, and seen photos. Anything that looks like that makes it to most of the generic 'history of the gun' books.
In an age just turning on to gadgets, (late 1800's) the idea behind that masterpiece was a gentleman would have levels of deterrence in his pocket. He could chose between shooting, stabbing, and simply pounding the snot out of an assailant.
When faced with a roving gang, he could fire his charges, then revert to dagger or brass knuckles as required, assuming he had time, and assuming any of the three choices actually worked.
My thought? About as effective as a Davis derringer combined with a small rock that happened to have a sharp edge.
I have heard this type of gun called a a "knuckle gun" for obvious reasons. This pistol was made for concealment, and as the story goes, was carried by gentleman gamblers in the riverboat days of the late 1800's. The brass knuckles was an idea that pre-dated speed loaders.
I must say, that I've never seen one in the dangerous revolver-assualt configuration. The folding bayonet, an invisible barrel shroud, and some sort of flash hider make this a candidate for a weapons ban of some type.
Seriously, I wonder what caliber it could be with a cylinder that seems rather long for it's diameter. Most that I have seen have been in obsolete rimfire calibers.
I remember it from a book about strange weapons. If memory serves me, it's a gun that was custom designed and used by a criminal gang in Marseille long time ago, end of 1800s or something like that. It was years ago I read that book though, so I could be wrong.
I've always seen it referred to as an 'Apache pistol'. In this case 'Apache' refers to the Parisian criminals of the 19th & early 20th centuary. Kinda the Saturday Night Special of the day. It was concelable, had impact edged and projectile weapons all in one pkg. Not such a bad concept but te exicution leaves a lot to be desired.
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It looks like an "Apache" but I wouldn't have any more idea than you of who made it or when.
ReplyDeleteThey were supposed to be popular with young street thugs sometimes referred to as "Apaches" in 19th-century Paris.
Wikipedia on Apache gangs
I have read of them, and seen photos. Anything that looks like that makes it to most of the generic 'history of the gun' books.
ReplyDeleteIn an age just turning on to gadgets, (late 1800's) the idea behind that masterpiece was a gentleman would have levels of deterrence in his pocket. He could chose between shooting, stabbing, and simply pounding the snot out of an assailant.
When faced with a roving gang, he could fire his charges, then revert to dagger or brass knuckles as required, assuming he had time, and assuming any of the three choices actually worked.
My thought? About as effective as a Davis derringer combined with a small rock that happened to have a sharp edge.
Looks like an Apache pistol to me. Here's a link
ReplyDeletehttp://www.hellinahandbasket.net/2006/11/is_that_an_apache_in_your_pock.htm
I have heard this type of gun called a a "knuckle gun" for obvious reasons. This pistol was made for concealment, and as the story goes, was carried by gentleman gamblers in the riverboat days of the late 1800's. The brass knuckles was an idea that pre-dated speed loaders.
ReplyDeleteI must say, that I've never seen one in the dangerous revolver-assualt configuration. The folding bayonet, an invisible barrel shroud, and some sort of flash hider make this a candidate for a weapons ban of some type.
Seriously, I wonder what caliber it could be with a cylinder that seems rather long for it's diameter. Most that I have seen have been in obsolete rimfire calibers.
I remember it from a book about strange weapons. If memory serves me, it's a gun that was custom designed and used by a criminal gang in Marseille long time ago, end of 1800s or something like that. It was years ago I read that book though, so I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteDid some googling, and it's an Apache folding knife revolver.
ReplyDeleteI was wrong about the city, it was a gang in Paris that called themselves Apaches.
http://www.gods-inc.de/macavity/IsleOfShadows/weapons/special.html
Here's a photo.
http://collectorebooks.com/gregg01/pinfire/Lot-283.htm
I've always seen it referred to as an 'Apache pistol'. In this case 'Apache' refers to the Parisian criminals of the 19th & early 20th centuary. Kinda the Saturday Night Special of the day. It was concelable, had impact edged and projectile weapons all in one pkg. Not such a bad concept but te exicution leaves a lot to be desired.
ReplyDeleteYep, an Apache it is! Thanks guys!
ReplyDeleteBut you're wrong!
ReplyDeleteIt *is* ugly.