The Sig P238
Another pistol that is turning heads at SHOT 2009 is the .380 Sig P238. It's a single action pistol with an aluminum frame and 
a stainless steel slide underneath a Black Nitron finish. It wears fluted aluminum grips.
MSRP $ 515.00, or $ 558.00 with night sights.
It seems Sig fans are bemoaning the fact the little shooter is a single action pistol, while Colt fans are celebrating the fact that somebody, even if it's Sig Sauer, brought back the Colt Mustang.
I used to own a Colt Mustang. Sometimes, I wish I still did. Hmmmmmmmmmm
a stainless steel slide underneath a Black Nitron finish. It wears fluted aluminum grips. MSRP $ 515.00, or $ 558.00 with night sights.
It seems Sig fans are bemoaning the fact the little shooter is a single action pistol, while Colt fans are celebrating the fact that somebody, even if it's Sig Sauer, brought back the Colt Mustang.
I used to own a Colt Mustang. Sometimes, I wish I still did. Hmmmmmmmmmm
Labels: SHOT Show 2009
posted by Xavier at 9:24 PM
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Kind of expensive for a .380, if you ask me. Still, not everyone needs, or can every handle, a .45 or even 9mm.
Needs a meltjob
I want, I want, I want.
I have been wanting a Mustang for a long time, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the pics come trickeling in of this one. Hopefully it's going to be out on time and in decent numbers. I heard March, We'll see how it goes. I'd really like to see wood or even old school Sig grips on it though, not a fan of the AL.
I've seen used Mustangs for around $600, The Sig is less, new and has night sights. Its the perfect backup gun to my 1911.
Since Colt discontinued the Mustang, prices have gone above $700, and much as I love my Mustang, I have to admit that the stock sights are less than ideal.
If Sig ditches the horrifically ugly aluminum grips, and puts some wood on there they will have a real winner.
Actually, the item that was rolled out at the SHOT show that I am really in Lust with is the new Dan Wesson CCO. It's a true Commander slide (with bushing, no bull barrel) on a lightweight officer frame, dark finish, night sights. The single thing I don't like is it has a stainless bushing, but that can be fixed.
well yhat looks nice and simple...
thanks to the greg martin links you posted now I need to know what is the difference between
Mustang and Pony
a combat and a commando
Also why SA army Number 1 is worth .75 mil...
I got to pick it up and play with it... IMHO, it is far uglier than a colt, although I'm guessing you could replace those hideous grips with more respectable ones. Ugly as it may be, it it a nice, solid gun with a good trigger. I'd be perfectly happy carrying one.
That being said, everyone and their brother are coming out with new carry .380s. I maintain that Kel-Tec is responsible for the recent upsurge in popularity of pocket .380s, as evidenced by the Ruger making a near-exact copy of the P3AT.
However, while some companies like Taurus are actually, um, designing new pocket guns, SIG is simply resurrecting an old classic. I don't see anything wrong with that, but I also doubt the new SIG is going to sell as fast as the Kel-Tecs or Ruger LCPs.
I hate it when this happens. I'd just about decided that I needed a Kahr P9 (Wolfwood, note that the Kahr MSRP is $200 more than this Sig) and now I'm conflicted.
I've owned a P228 for about 15 years and love the marque. Now, with a 1911 format, a reliable manufacturer and a true pocket-pistol size, I think I've got to have one.
Unlike most Mustangs, it might even run. ;)
Every time I see a Mustang I kick myself for passing over one in great shape for $450 about 1.5 yrs ago.
Looks like I'll just have to settle for a new Sig if they can keep up with demand.
A .380, with a metal frame, in a 1911 format? If the price is right, this may just replace my Colt Junior as my BUG. I'll keep the Colt (you've got to have at least one gun that's older than you are), but it would no longer be used for defense.
(I could have gotten a P3AT, but I succumbed to my love of classic designs, metal frames, and manual safeties, and got the Colt for about $25 less. A .25 can still be effective, if you aim for the right spot, but .380 would be better.)
Ed Rasimus
Eh, true. I own a Beretta 85 Cheetah, so I'm a hypocrite on the .380 front anyway. I guess I just feel as though if you're going with anything less than a 9mm then you may as well make it as small and inexpensive as possible (which is why I also have two Kel-Tec P-3ATs).
So why is the .380 seeming to become more popular again? Beretta re-activated their 84 Cheetah, Ruger pirated the LCP from Kel-Tec, IWI came out with their massive Micro Eagle (yes, again, I have a Cheetah; sue me) and now this from Sig. I can't tell from the picture; how does this compare to a Compact 1911 or a Kahr PM9?
I love my Mustang for summer carry, its light and reliable. I wouldn't sell it for anything; however, the P238 makes me think its time to put the old Mustang in the safe and try its younger clone. Wonder if the holsters will be inter-changeable?
I have a P238. I can shoot it very accurately at 15+ yards and have shoot about 100 rounds thru it with zero problems. Points very well. Sights are corse but the 3 dots do the job in low light.
The P238 will not feed Cor-Bonds or Hydra Shocks. Will feeds Hornaday Critical Defence every time.
Bullard pocket holster for the Colt Mustang fits perfect.
The grips may not be pretty but they work!
Makes a good companion to my Browning P35.
Pekin Pete
I got my P238 two-tone, rosewood grips this afternoon. I can't wait to get to the range. I'm praying Wally-World has some white box .380 in sometime over the next few days. I'd like to run 500 rounds through the pistol this weekend, clean it well, and then go qualify with it.
It's a beautiful little pistol. If it's as reliable as it is good-looking, it's a lifetime keeper.
At the range today, 1 of 6 rounds of $VERYSPENDY Buffalo Bore ammo failed to feed (edge of truncated nose caught top of feed ramp and took MINUTES to get the gun running again), and 12 of 50 rounds of $cheap steel case crapammo had failure to feed and/or extract. Hornady CD and all good quality brass ammo feeds 100% perfect every time. Great gun, but doesn't like Buffalo Bore nor crapammo...
I bought my sig P238 about a month after it came out. What a mistake It has given me nothing but problems. Sig’s customer service is by far the worst I have ever dealt with. First it had failure to fire, failure to go full battery, jams and failure to extract. Sent it in got it back about two weeks later not bad. Then went to fire it. Every clip had one or more failures to extract or jams. Contacted Sig I was instructed they need 500 rounds of FMJ put through before fully broke in and to expect the problems. After allot of time searching finally gathered together 700 over time and put them though. I would shoot any where from 50-100 rounds at a time then clean using Hoppes #9 and M-Pro 7 and Break free CLP changing it up each cleaning. Still failures to extract and jams. Sent it into Sig on the 4th of December After not hearing from them for a couple weeks emailed asking about the status of my pistol. I was told it was sent out on the 8th. I told them I did not receive it yet it then being the 20th of Dec. They did not seem to think it was an issue that I never received my gun. I then got the fed ex tracking number and found someone else had received it and signed for it. Sig had sent it to the wrong address. When I told Sig about this they down played it as no big deal stating they would get the gun back. I told them I did not want it back not knowing what may have happened to or been done with it while in a strangers hand who didn’t even have to pass a back ground check. It was not until the ATF and Local law enforcement were involved that When I contacted sig they told me they would replace it with a new gun of the same model. The gun they sent out to the wrong person had moved after and the gun is lost. I asked about the 500 rounds of ammo and after talking to Diana Chapman the manager of Sig’s customer service was instructed for another $100 I could buy a different p238 model. I can pay that amount here if I wanted that. I asked about all the time I had to spend with them and they would do nothing. They want to charge me full MSRP for any other model but when I asked about a refund they said they would do nothing about the ammo and time I had spent with them to break in the pistol and would only refund the store I bought the gun from. I told them I worked at a gun store and had always in the past recommended them as a high quality firearm and was told I was not their only customer. Sig’s quality over the past 5 years has greatly decreased the German company who bought out the Swiss need to reevaluate their system and bring back the quality and dependability that Sig used to be. At this moment I am still in the process with Sig about a resolution I told them I do not want the same model I had issues with and wanted some compensation for them loosing my gun as well as all the money I had spent breaking in the first. At this time they are doing nothing. And basically told me take it or leave it.
i got my 238 a few months ago never had any problem with it like any of my other sigs never had a jam or anything
Sounds exactly the same as your post on The Firing Line Troyser:
I bought my sig P238 about a month after it came out. What a mistake It has given me nothing but problems. Sig’s customer service is by far the worst I have ever dealt with.
Verbatim, huh?
my girl friend has the sig p238 and it jams 1 of every 10-15 and we hve given it every ammo we can find (southeast mi) the thing just will not run, i think i should have talked here into the new walther380 dont hear all this about that one
Millz
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