Xavier Thoughts: Pro-Arms on Ammunition

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Pro-Arms on Ammunition

Mas Ayoob, Jon and Terri Strayer, Steve Denny, Gail Pepin, Herman Gunter and Chris Christian discuss carry gun ammunition.

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7 Comments:

Old NFO said...: Excellent! thanks!; 10:37 PM
tom said...: I'll make sure on my next cape hunt to only use hollow points that might not even hit a vital or even make it through the hide and not use solids as everybody knows that you need hollowpoints to stop a buff charge....There's a place for everything. A bigot is a bigot is a bigot and there's a place for solids, AP, and hollowpoints in life.

Bullet bigots.

Hotrod defensive JHP ammo has failed in as many gunfights due to not expanding properly, premature expansion, or lack of penetration as many times as FMJ has over-penetrated.

I bet JHP failures in real life shootings are significantly greater than lawsuits related to over-penetration of FMJ or other types of solids.

They picked their bigotry, tailored their script to reflect it, and yapped about it until I got bored and shut it off. Doesn't make them not bigots.

One sided and boring. There's a place for many types of projectiles in this world. That's why there's more than one choice. Q.E.D.; 6:54 AM
Les said...: Mas Ayoob is great!

...And he'll be here around Chicago to do his most excellent Judicious Use of Lethal force class!

Anyway, turns out that he and Gail have a whole slew of gun stuff and podcasts out there:
ProArms Podcasts/BlogCaptcha is "nerdsogg"?; 10:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Interesting that they say the Winchester White Box claims to be for "target, hunting, and personal protection" when in fact it does not. What he's reading is the legend for the symbols. There are three symbols, a bullseye, deer antlers, and a pistol. The standard FMJ ammo has a bullseye next to it. Nearby is the legend, which tells you the bullseye means this ammo is for target practice.

I know it's confusing and poorly laid out, but the WWB FMJ ammo does not claim to be for hunting or protection.; 10:30 AM
tom said...: I might add, in defensive and offensive shooting, both sides tend to MISS A LOT, which makes lawyerish worrying about over-penetration kind of moot anyway, doesn't it?

Me, I like a mix of JHP and things designed to blast through things rather than dump their energy in things.

There are no perfect answers as life is, after all, a compromise. Methods of taking lives are also compromises.

Regards,; 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...: While all this talk about using a particular load might be OK, just try to buy it. One can only buy what is for sale, if you can even find ammo.; 9:02 AM
Unknown said...: @tom

Frankly, I think you're going a bit over board.

1. If the JHP fails to open, how is it any worse than an FMJ?

2. They talked about situations where JHP fail to open.

3. I believe Massad Ayoob and the others also talked a bit about soft wad cutters, etc.

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To everyone else...

You can check out ProArms and a nearly a dozen other 2nd Amendment/Gun podcasts over at GunRightsRadio.com; 10:07 PM